The example I give regarding the immune compromised is when my father had cancer prior to 2020. He didn’t call the grocery store to inform them that he was coming in and everyone should mask up and stay 6 feet away from him. He didn’t handshake or hug but knew it was his responsibility to take care of himself. Why suddenly is it different? We will always have immune compromised people in society. This hasn’t changed, yet everything has changed.
Sadly, this has been true throughout the pandemic and to some extent before. I have lost friends who refused to accept the reality of the situation we’re in, even when I present evidence that provides solid refutations.
I have even been able to refute studies they claim is valid by pointing out that it’s often based on modelling rather than real world data. I always prioritize real world data over modelling, even from the beginning.
I always wished for a class action lawsuit of YT, Twitter, et al for practicing medicine without a medical degree. I hate class action lawsuits in general because it's largely a pay day for the very few, but I consider it a necessary deterrent.
Obviously from Dr. Vinay Prasad's presentation, he holds the results from England will generalize -- but based upon the global data patterns so far, this seems a highly reasonable assumption.
Dr. Vinay Prasad: PLEASE provide links to your sources, and not just pictures of the sources. For a Substack, full scholarly citations are clear overkill -- but links are not. Thank you.
Of course critics will say "but there's the extra risk of long Covid". However, post-viral syndromes were an accepted risk of flu etc. In fact, they were largely swept under the rug by a medical establishment that couldn't be bothered taking them seriously. It's true that organ damage due to the more virulent strains makes their post-viral syndromes particularly challenging, but it seems unlikely that a flu-level threat like omicron will produce more than a flu-level number of post-viral syndromes.
I don't want to underplay these, but hey, we've had decades to find a solution to them and most MDs have spent it gaslighting patients.
I have a close contact who worked high up as an anesthesiologist for 30 years. He has a little one at home born with heart problems. Surgeries early on in life and concerns she won’t make it past age 5. At the beginning of the pandemic he and wife were quite worried---keeping them separate from one another due to his hospital work and fears of the virus. But a few months in and that fear ended. A few months more and he resigned rather than covid vax!! On the other hand, I have friends claiming immunocompromised who won’t allow themselves to mix with unvaxxed like myself! Lyme disease, autoimmune, PANS...I’m not sure those are really on that CDC list??? Plus yeah, they can vax and boost and mask all they want and if they think that works(?) well then why do they fear?
The earlier comments about existential crisis---yes. I, for one, know death is coming for me someday! I’m not morbid, but I acknowledge it daily! I think this whole thing is fascinating in terms of people’s insistence on power over or denial of death. I look forward to the great pieces of literature and sociocultural/psychological works that will come out of it.
I was unfairly censored when I posted a BMJ article on fb (for ONE example). I’m done on there. It’s crazy making.
I hope Eli gets vindicated. And I hope Vinay highlights other MANY examples of this having happened, and not just with professionals from his own bubble. How bout Kirsch, Malone, Berenson, El Gato, etc etc etc etc.
Do you have a link to the Financial Times article that that chart is from? I've been trying to tell someone the flu is deadlier and they won't believe me
I look forward to reading your observations because you objectively analyze topics by including data and/or research using established standards for critical evaluation. Correct me if I'm wrong but I have not seen you address the thousands of adverse events and deaths that have been reported to the VAERS system for the experimental gene therapy shot. I would love to hear your analysis.
Immunocompromised is the new gluten intolerant
The example I give regarding the immune compromised is when my father had cancer prior to 2020. He didn’t call the grocery store to inform them that he was coming in and everyone should mask up and stay 6 feet away from him. He didn’t handshake or hug but knew it was his responsibility to take care of himself. Why suddenly is it different? We will always have immune compromised people in society. This hasn’t changed, yet everything has changed.
Just another example of why the current Twitter leadership will be shown the door very quickly after the sale to Musk goes through.
And then Musk bought it. More worried about our new Ministry of Truth.
Sadly, this has been true throughout the pandemic and to some extent before. I have lost friends who refused to accept the reality of the situation we’re in, even when I present evidence that provides solid refutations.
I have even been able to refute studies they claim is valid by pointing out that it’s often based on modelling rather than real world data. I always prioritize real world data over modelling, even from the beginning.
The barrier that separates contemporary US discourse from that of an overtly censorious, propagandistic dystopia grow thinner by the day.
I always wished for a class action lawsuit of YT, Twitter, et al for practicing medicine without a medical degree. I hate class action lawsuits in general because it's largely a pay day for the very few, but I consider it a necessary deterrent.
Okay. So the CDC source is here (Weekly / April 29, 2022 / 71(17);606-608 -- pre-release on 26 April 2022): https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e3.htm
The credible report which Vinay Prasad, MD, cites is here (Medical Express, 28 April 2022): https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-04-sars-cov-seroprevalence-dec-feb.html
The FT news report cited is the following: "Vaccines and Omicron mean Covid now less deadly than flu in England" (10 March 2022): https://www.ft.com/content/e26c93a0-90e7-4dec-a796-3e25e94bc59b
Obviously from Dr. Vinay Prasad's presentation, he holds the results from England will generalize -- but based upon the global data patterns so far, this seems a highly reasonable assumption.
Dr. Vinay Prasad: PLEASE provide links to your sources, and not just pictures of the sources. For a Substack, full scholarly citations are clear overkill -- but links are not. Thank you.
Of course critics will say "but there's the extra risk of long Covid". However, post-viral syndromes were an accepted risk of flu etc. In fact, they were largely swept under the rug by a medical establishment that couldn't be bothered taking them seriously. It's true that organ damage due to the more virulent strains makes their post-viral syndromes particularly challenging, but it seems unlikely that a flu-level threat like omicron will produce more than a flu-level number of post-viral syndromes.
I don't want to underplay these, but hey, we've had decades to find a solution to them and most MDs have spent it gaslighting patients.
I have a close contact who worked high up as an anesthesiologist for 30 years. He has a little one at home born with heart problems. Surgeries early on in life and concerns she won’t make it past age 5. At the beginning of the pandemic he and wife were quite worried---keeping them separate from one another due to his hospital work and fears of the virus. But a few months in and that fear ended. A few months more and he resigned rather than covid vax!! On the other hand, I have friends claiming immunocompromised who won’t allow themselves to mix with unvaxxed like myself! Lyme disease, autoimmune, PANS...I’m not sure those are really on that CDC list??? Plus yeah, they can vax and boost and mask all they want and if they think that works(?) well then why do they fear?
The earlier comments about existential crisis---yes. I, for one, know death is coming for me someday! I’m not morbid, but I acknowledge it daily! I think this whole thing is fascinating in terms of people’s insistence on power over or denial of death. I look forward to the great pieces of literature and sociocultural/psychological works that will come out of it.
I was unfairly censored when I posted a BMJ article on fb (for ONE example). I’m done on there. It’s crazy making.
I hope Eli gets vindicated. And I hope Vinay highlights other MANY examples of this having happened, and not just with professionals from his own bubble. How bout Kirsch, Malone, Berenson, El Gato, etc etc etc etc.
He needs to sue. That is the only way this is going to end.
Do you have a link to the Financial Times article that that chart is from? I've been trying to tell someone the flu is deadlier and they won't believe me
Well done, Vinay. Thank you.
I look forward to reading your observations because you objectively analyze topics by including data and/or research using established standards for critical evaluation. Correct me if I'm wrong but I have not seen you address the thousands of adverse events and deaths that have been reported to the VAERS system for the experimental gene therapy shot. I would love to hear your analysis.
The concept of “Misinformation” has been weaponised extensively to silence dissenters: https://davidthunder.substack.com/p/how-the-concept-of-misinformation-910?r=wlowt&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=direct
Where were you when they censored Alex Berenson?