The drop in uptake of other vaccines is not surprising. Trust in our public health agencies has been seriously eroded. There needs to be a committee formed to discuss how to begin to restore trust. That committee should include pro, anti and skeptical vaccine groups. There is a lot of lost ground to make up. Lettuce pray...
I’ve been reading “The Invisible Siege”, by Dan Werb, which chronicles the history of how the amazing mRNA vaccines were created which ended the pandemic, and it casually mentions that strokes were a suggested side effect of mRNA vaccines (p179, see Imgur for full quote), and I have to wonder, if strokes were theorized as a potential side effect from the beginning, why weren’t we alerted to this risk? Why weren’t monitoring systems set up for scrutiny?
I am no fan of public health. Trust began to erode during the opiate crisis. It’s a landslide right off the mountain now. I’m not sure I will ever trust FDA+pharma+government=more money (no interest in care of people).
Well, we gotta' hand it to the Fumbling Federal Functionaries when it comes to our evaluation of what they will do in attempting to fool us ignorant rubes. Consider this weapon called the Barrage of Buzzword Blarney. The newest buzzword to suffer abuse, the term "Signal", was used not less than nine times in a terse if not turgid announcement released jointly by CDC & FDA on a Friday afternoon. That's an old timing trick borrowed from the world of Big Business, viz. releasing horse-shit news on a Friday afternoon to "minimize coverage in the news cycle". Walenksy could now be wearing a sling after dislocating her right shoulder from patting herself on the back in repeated spasms of self congratulation. What do you wanna' bet that this corny caper was an intentionally theatrical "We have come to Jesus" thing being performed NOW so that CDC, FDA, et alia can LATER issue a technically honest rejoinder, "But we are transparent, blah blah blah blah".
"Pfizer had a 100 billion reason they should have performed and RCT, but this administration felt it better they save that money than run a study.". Actually no. Both gain because we buy a lot of product and the royalties accrue to the NIH - win. win for them, a loss for the public. Despite the title Public Health advisors, their purpose seems to be gain more budget for their agency.
Has the public soured on the very notion of Public Heath advisors and their messaging? Once they are lied to what might we expect? Safe and effective has become a joke because the statement was not universal.
“On Friday the 13th … it appears a safety signal of stroke may be identified [“CDC and FDA Identify Preliminary COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signal for Persons Aged 65 Years and Older”]. … Where is the press conference? Sadly, no further info followed.”
This press release is a bit misleading. It only refers to safety signals from the bivalent vaccines, not for the monovalent mRNA vaccines. Way back in Summer '21 {?) the FDA (or Medicare?) put out a similar press release that 4 safety signals [pulmonary embolism (PE), acute myocardial infarction (AMI), disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC), and immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)] had been triggered by the Phizer monovalent vaccine for seniors. Then, no further info.
In November '22, researchers finally uploaded a pre-print that verified a safety signal for PE, but claimed “after further evaluation, only the RR for PE still met the statistical threshold for a signal” … “these findings require cautious interpretation because the early warning system could not prove that vaccines caused these safety outcomes” … ““FDA is not currently not taking any regulatory actions on these signal detection activities because these signals are still under investigation and require more robust study.”
How's that for timely information? Only took FDA about 2 years after the roll out to admit these signals, only to then call for more "robust' study before taking action! What's the point of safety monitoring systems if the powers-that-be don't release the information in a timely fashion? Or act on it to warn the public.
Thank you for continuing to stand against the madness of profits before patients. There are still too many doctors, scientists and journalists hiding their heads in the sand.
I’m not surprised VP....all of us see safety signals all around us, it’s sad. Yes of course RCTs asap are needed on all of this... but particularly in those under the age of 60… It’s really really hard to miss in regular American daily life. Where is the source for the stroke safety signal you included here? I’d love to share that so more people are aware 👍
“They initially denied the safety signal of myocarditis. … On Friday the 13th … it appears a safety signal of stroke may be identified [“CDC and FDA Identify Preliminary COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signal for Persons Aged 65 Years and Older”]. … Where is the press conference? Sadly, no further info followed.”
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Since the vaccine rollout, the CDC has failed to actually monitor it's VAERS system for safety signals. The CDC refused FOIA requests, kept changing their story, and was recently forced to release their results after losing a lawsuit. The CDC identified 770 different types of adverse events that showed safety signals … over 500 (or 2/3) had a larger safety signal than myocarditis/pericarditis.”
“How can the CDC say that these safety signals are meaningless if almost none of them have been studied any further? And yet we are assured that these vaccines have undergone the most intensive safety monitoring effort in history. It’s complete and utter hogwash!”
From Josh Guestzow: "We are told that the existence of a safety signal doesn’t necessarily mean the AE is caused by the vaccine, and I accept that premise. But the current practice seems to be to ignore safety signals, dismiss them as noise without any evidence, and stall any investigation into them as long as possible. The precautionary principle, however, dictates we should presume that a safety signal indicates causality, until proven otherwise.
Since, it has been acknowledged that the mRNA COVID vaccines can cause myocarditis and pericarditis ... we can take those AEs as a kind of benchmark, and propose that, at minimum, any AE with a signal of equal or greater size should be considered potentially causal and investigated more thoroughly. ... 66.4% of the [770] AEs had a bigger safety signal than myocarditis"
OK, a measles outbreak isn't a concern for many of us who got it when our parents insisted, but a polio "outbreak"? Where exactly is the polio "outbreak"? Isn't this national news? Shouldn't we all be informed of this immediately? And who are you quoting Ken, when you say 'This is alarming'? Yourself?
Now, don’t exaggerate. It wasn’t “mouse” data. It was mice data. There were 8 of them! That’s basically a RCT right there.
The drop in uptake of other vaccines is not surprising. Trust in our public health agencies has been seriously eroded. There needs to be a committee formed to discuss how to begin to restore trust. That committee should include pro, anti and skeptical vaccine groups. There is a lot of lost ground to make up. Lettuce pray...
'Safety signal...' Why do I feel like we are lab rats in what is turning out to be a mass medical experiment? Because I think we are.
And it’s going to get so much worse...
I’ve been reading “The Invisible Siege”, by Dan Werb, which chronicles the history of how the amazing mRNA vaccines were created which ended the pandemic, and it casually mentions that strokes were a suggested side effect of mRNA vaccines (p179, see Imgur for full quote), and I have to wonder, if strokes were theorized as a potential side effect from the beginning, why weren’t we alerted to this risk? Why weren’t monitoring systems set up for scrutiny?
See: https://imgur.com/a/Lhk7QPx
I am no fan of public health. Trust began to erode during the opiate crisis. It’s a landslide right off the mountain now. I’m not sure I will ever trust FDA+pharma+government=more money (no interest in care of people).
Well, we gotta' hand it to the Fumbling Federal Functionaries when it comes to our evaluation of what they will do in attempting to fool us ignorant rubes. Consider this weapon called the Barrage of Buzzword Blarney. The newest buzzword to suffer abuse, the term "Signal", was used not less than nine times in a terse if not turgid announcement released jointly by CDC & FDA on a Friday afternoon. That's an old timing trick borrowed from the world of Big Business, viz. releasing horse-shit news on a Friday afternoon to "minimize coverage in the news cycle". Walenksy could now be wearing a sling after dislocating her right shoulder from patting herself on the back in repeated spasms of self congratulation. What do you wanna' bet that this corny caper was an intentionally theatrical "We have come to Jesus" thing being performed NOW so that CDC, FDA, et alia can LATER issue a technically honest rejoinder, "But we are transparent, blah blah blah blah".
The flu vaccine has about 50% effectiveness. Flip a coin. No thanks.
"Pfizer had a 100 billion reason they should have performed and RCT, but this administration felt it better they save that money than run a study.". Actually no. Both gain because we buy a lot of product and the royalties accrue to the NIH - win. win for them, a loss for the public. Despite the title Public Health advisors, their purpose seems to be gain more budget for their agency.
Has the public soured on the very notion of Public Heath advisors and their messaging? Once they are lied to what might we expect? Safe and effective has become a joke because the statement was not universal.
“On Friday the 13th … it appears a safety signal of stroke may be identified [“CDC and FDA Identify Preliminary COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signal for Persons Aged 65 Years and Older”]. … Where is the press conference? Sadly, no further info followed.”
This press release is a bit misleading. It only refers to safety signals from the bivalent vaccines, not for the monovalent mRNA vaccines. Way back in Summer '21 {?) the FDA (or Medicare?) put out a similar press release that 4 safety signals [pulmonary embolism (PE), acute myocardial infarction (AMI), disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC), and immune thrombocytopenia (ITP)] had been triggered by the Phizer monovalent vaccine for seniors. Then, no further info.
Update: https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/fda-waited-months-to-alert-public-to-possible-covid-19-vaccine-safety-issues-researchers-disclose_4932029.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=Ccpv&utm_campaign=2023-01-15
Link to 7/21 report: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/initial-results-near-real-time-safety-monitoring-covid-19-vaccines-persons-aged-65-years-and-older ]
In November '22, researchers finally uploaded a pre-print that verified a safety signal for PE, but claimed “after further evaluation, only the RR for PE still met the statistical threshold for a signal” … “these findings require cautious interpretation because the early warning system could not prove that vaccines caused these safety outcomes” … ““FDA is not currently not taking any regulatory actions on these signal detection activities because these signals are still under investigation and require more robust study.”
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20221107/US-COVID-19-vaccine-safety-surveillance-results-for-the-over-65s.aspx
How's that for timely information? Only took FDA about 2 years after the roll out to admit these signals, only to then call for more "robust' study before taking action! What's the point of safety monitoring systems if the powers-that-be don't release the information in a timely fashion? Or act on it to warn the public.
Would love to see Dr Prasad in a position where he could change the culture of public health policy.
Thank you for continuing to stand against the madness of profits before patients. There are still too many doctors, scientists and journalists hiding their heads in the sand.
I’m not surprised VP....all of us see safety signals all around us, it’s sad. Yes of course RCTs asap are needed on all of this... but particularly in those under the age of 60… It’s really really hard to miss in regular American daily life. Where is the source for the stroke safety signal you included here? I’d love to share that so more people are aware 👍
“They initially denied the safety signal of myocarditis. … On Friday the 13th … it appears a safety signal of stroke may be identified [“CDC and FDA Identify Preliminary COVID-19 Vaccine Safety Signal for Persons Aged 65 Years and Older”]. … Where is the press conference? Sadly, no further info followed.”
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Since the vaccine rollout, the CDC has failed to actually monitor it's VAERS system for safety signals. The CDC refused FOIA requests, kept changing their story, and was recently forced to release their results after losing a lawsuit. The CDC identified 770 different types of adverse events that showed safety signals … over 500 (or 2/3) had a larger safety signal than myocarditis/pericarditis.”
Over the past years, Jose Guetzkow has provided excellent commentary. Here's his most recent post: https://jackanapes.substack.com/p/cdc-finally-released-its-vaers-safety
“How can the CDC say that these safety signals are meaningless if almost none of them have been studied any further? And yet we are assured that these vaccines have undergone the most intensive safety monitoring effort in history. It’s complete and utter hogwash!”
From Josh Guestzow: "We are told that the existence of a safety signal doesn’t necessarily mean the AE is caused by the vaccine, and I accept that premise. But the current practice seems to be to ignore safety signals, dismiss them as noise without any evidence, and stall any investigation into them as long as possible. The precautionary principle, however, dictates we should presume that a safety signal indicates causality, until proven otherwise.
Since, it has been acknowledged that the mRNA COVID vaccines can cause myocarditis and pericarditis ... we can take those AEs as a kind of benchmark, and propose that, at minimum, any AE with a signal of equal or greater size should be considered potentially causal and investigated more thoroughly. ... 66.4% of the [770] AEs had a bigger safety signal than myocarditis"
https://jackanapes.substack.com/p/cdc-finally-released-its-vaers-safety
OK, a measles outbreak isn't a concern for many of us who got it when our parents insisted, but a polio "outbreak"? Where exactly is the polio "outbreak"? Isn't this national news? Shouldn't we all be informed of this immediately? And who are you quoting Ken, when you say 'This is alarming'? Yourself?